Whether by my own voice or by the voice of my servants, it is the same.

"There is a portent of stormy weather ahead."
President Gordon B. Hinckley 1998

Sunday, October 11, 2009

- Post-Conference Musings

Post-Conference Musings

General Conference continues to resonate through my heart and mind as I ponder the whisperings of the Spirit that accompanied the music, talks and testimonies.

But where were the warnings to prepare? some may ask. Let me share with you the comments and observations of a wonderful young man that some of you may know from his YouTube videos where he goes by the name of davidkat99. David shared some thoughts after last April's General Conference which came so forcefully to my mind this past week that I requested and received permission to post them here.

What follows next is David's message:

April 2009:

For the past couple of years, I have wondered why in General Conference, the Brethren have been relatively silent in warning, giving counsel in preparing for the last days etc. I have prayed and yearned for Samuel the Lamanite-like talks, or President Benson's or Bruce R. McConkie's talks... yet instead we have been getting talks on Faith, on Hope.. on Charity/Service etc.. Every conference that we have we seem to hear more on hope, on charity. President Monson’s talk on the mother that needed hope despite having to bury her children in frozen ground with a spoon was almost more than I could bare. Why these talks on the big 3 (Faith, Hope, and Charity) instead of one year’s supply of food, emergency preparedness, preparing for eminent catastrophes?

On my knees asking my Father… here the world is crumbling, disasters are eminent, people are not prepared and need to be. I was very frustrated and wondered

Well… ask and you shall receive.

I then had a wonderful phone conversation with my mother-in-law, and she felt impressed to tell me one thing in particular. She said things are so very close to all of the "prophesied" things to begin happening. We talked about the “cycle" (talked about in the Boyd K Packer's Priesthood Talk in given in conference in April 2009) . We noticed that
just before things completely fall apart and collapse with utter destruction, the Lord's annointed stop warning, and start speaking about faith, hope and charity. IT IS THE LAST STAGE IN THE CYCLE.

Then it hit me... The Book of Mormon is a template for this as well. Case in point. We read in Ether... we get all the warnings about secret combinations etc and how the wickedness is abounding and that the people will be destroyed if they don't repent.. then just before the entire civilization gets destroyed we get the 12th chapter on FAITH, HOPE and CHARITY.. then the destructions in the following chapter to the complete destruction of that civilization.

Another example we find in Moroni chapter 8.. just before telling us that the people will perish and the prophecies will be fulfilled, Mormon teaches his son Moroni (and us), about Faith, Hope and Charity. (Note also, the Apostle Paul speaking to the Early Christian in I Corinthians 13 on Faith, Hope and Charity before the fall of Roman and the Christian persecution)

Okay... fast forward to [recent] conferences.. what messages are we hearing...

WOW.. it hit me like a ton of bricks.. It was the answer that I needed to hear about why we aren't receiving the voice of warning like I wanted.

Here is how I see the cycle now: As a people we move from being Humble… to Obedient… to Blessed…. to Living Righteously…. to Ease… to Laziness… to Prideful…. to Selfishness… to Immorality/Sin…. to Having the prophets warn us to repent….. to Wickedness…. to Ripening to the Point of no return….. to No more on Warnings, but teaching the humble followers to have Faith, Hope, and Charity….. -THEN DESTRUCTION, CALAMITIES for the wicked, etc- and purifying the righteous and unfortunately compelling us back to being HUMBLE.....

So, we probably won't see the prophets speaking to us to warn us.. we are past that time, we are in the final stage. This is the Lord's way, just as He has done with the 2 prior civilizations (Jaredites, and the Nephites).. It is my opinion, the more we hear about HOPE, don't DESPAIR, etc .. THE CLOSER WE ARE!

Just as a side note that just hit me, In one of my last videos, "Great Trials Lie Ahead".. Please watch if you haven’t already. Here is the link:

I started out with all of the warnings of McConkie, Benson, Eyring.... and felt very strongly to end the video with the statements of HOPE by Uchtdorf... This is a pattern, it is pattern seen in the Book of Mormon and we are following that same pattern today... NEXT STEP for ALL OF US: The Destruction of the Wicked and the Saints being Humbled.. Which especially here in Salt Lake is needed.

and by the way....the Book of Mormon is true


  1. wow!!!!
    I agree with both of you. I, too, had been wondering about that, but then remembered that, somewhere I had read about one of the Apostles telling his family (one of those Mormon myth-or-reality-stories) that the Lord was done with the warnings, that HE was going to preach His own messages from then on. I imagine that, as stubborn children that we are, when we won't listen, our Father will let stuff happen to us and then tell us, "I told you"... Noah preached for 100 years, I bet by the end of that time he just grew silent and spent his time preparing his own family for the impending rains.
    "He who has ears to hear, let him hear", this is so very true.
    Other thing that bothered me was the announcement of 5 more temples, (another one on Utah!!), none in Puerto Rico. Then I thought, we really aren't worthy of a temple. If we were, we would already have one.
    So, I know that Pres. Monson & his counselors & Apostles are really prophets. And I also know that the Lord will not contend with us for much more. If we don't listen to Him, how do we expect non-believers to listen?
    Thanks for the post, I'm going today to study those passages. We truly are on the last minutes of the last days. woo-hoo!!!He's coming back!!!

  2. I think your observation and experience are spot on target. I have wondered about some of the same things that you have. I've had my ears ready to hear warnings and instructions about how to prepare. And, they haven't been coming in recent conferences. Why, I wondered. Then, I remembered D&C 88:88-92 ---
    88 And after your testimony cometh wrath and indignation upon the people.
    89 For after your testimony cometh the testimony of earthquakes, that shall cause groanings in the midst of her, and men shall fall upon the ground and shall not be able to stand.
    90 And also cometh the testimony of the voice of thunderings, and the voice of lightnings, and the voice of tempests, and the voice of the waves of the sea heaving themselves beyond their bounds.
    91 And all things shall be in commotion; and surely, men’s hearts shall fail them; for fear shall come upon all people.
    92 And angels shall fly through the midst of heaven, crying with a loud voice, sounding the trump of God, saying: Prepare ye, prepare ye, O inhabitants of the earth; for the judgment of our God is come. Behold, and lo, the Bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.

    We have already been warned. If we were listening and paying attention, we already know what we should have been doing.

    Thanks so much for your insight and the spirit that your blog shares with all of us. It is very welcome indeed.

  3. With tears of burning testimony I add my testimony to yours, that the Book of Mormon is true, that Joseph Smith IS and WAS a true prophet and that Jesus Christ is our Savior and that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints in the true church on the earth today!

    Kat =^..^=

  4. I have enjoyed your comments and insights. May I add yet another thought...Like all of you, I have pondered why we don't have a Samuel, the Lamanite, or Isaiah calling us to repentance. Then I realized, that in a quiet, but strong voice our leaders are calling us to repentance. They are pleading with us to have the faith that moves us to repentance, the hope to endure chastisement and have a very strong relationship with the Holy Ghost. They admonish us to develop charity that will bring us to be as Christ is. If all of us, Christian and nonChristian alike, were to do this, then the calamities, the commotion, the destruction would not come. We would be able to establish Zion without those events and we would be able to bring Christ back without the turmoil. Remember, the prophecies are based on the righteousness, or lack thereof, of the people. Kst

  5. I, too, have wondered why no dire warnings. I have realized they are teaching us about how to deal with these times now that they are here. I pray for this country every night and that our people will repent and turn to God.

  6. Oh, I miss your old newsletters! I had just sent out some links to others, and they came but couldn't find the older newsletters. Anyway, I'm glad I got to read them ;), and still thank you for them! I know they took a lot of time and effort.


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